Solved pay me what you OW me FREEEDOM for april and may 2015!!!!!

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Thereepershadow

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right first of, i am still trying to get you guys to pay me the actual REAL amount i made in April and may, i got something like 11k+ on another video in April and over 24k+ views on one video in may and you guys payed me $0.81 for my April payment and $0.42 for my may payment. how is that right!

i used Google ad-words to advertise these two videos back when i first started. i have contacted your support staff and after months of back and forth with your guys doing everything from accusing me of view botting and everything else and outright calling me a liar and saying things like if you advertise on Google Ad-words you don't generate revenue from your video because it itself is and ad and it doesn't run ads on the video your advertising so you don't make money of it, that's ridiculous!

what would be the point in using the ad-words service if this were the case! i told google this and they assured me i was right and your staff were wrong.

i went to google to ask for their help on the matter and they looked into my video ads and my accounts in order to investigate the matter and then came back to me a few days later and showed me the proof that all my views i had received were in fact legitimate views and gave me proof of this to show to your support guys to show them they were wrong and you do in fact owe me close to like $50+.

i even showed three different people the proof from google. and still have not gotten anywere. i have been talking with support about this matter for literally months, since about June 2015 and now they have just outright stopped contact all together with me.

i have tried acting in a professional manner but im at the end of my patience with this and i am seriously considering leaving Freedom if this isn't sorted. there is some nice benefits for being partnered with you guys so i really would rather stay with you but if this isn't sorted soon i will leave.

and George was meant to have been informed on this matter according to one of the support guys i spoke to but... nothing!
 

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So I just took a look at your channel to see these videos, and I feel like I've got to say something about it. Your most viewed video has 28K views, but only 10 ratings. That is a telltale sign of viewbotting/buying views, and it's actually illegal to do that on monetised videos...
 
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Fourth Wall Games

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The amount that is paid to you by Freedom! is the amount that YouTube have sent them (minus the share percentage).

If YouTube see that views are not legitimate or are not monetized views then they will not send money to Freedom! to pay you. Also Freedom! are under contract with YouTube to check all payments and views etc for various things such as copyrighted content, fake views etc etc. Freedom! will then be required to send any money back to YouTube in order to refund the advertisers.

Do you have this proof at hand to show us? Of course remove any personal data such as names etc.

You currently make an average of 6 views per day. With viral videos hitting 28,000 you would expect this to be a lot higher if it was organic.

These are just opinions and in no way accusing you of anything :)
 
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MrDanger

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Olá, A Freedom E uma network confianvel? Algumas pessoas estão dizendo que nao, mais eu acho que ela é confiavel sim
 
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Thereepershadow

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write ok i understand this, ive heard it all from the support staff already. here is the emails i had with the google ad-words rep.

first theres this one
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heres the second part to that first email
google email 1 part 2.jpg here is the first bit of proof they gave me with the first email
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here was my response to them
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and here is the next email i got of them
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here is the second and third bit they gave me
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now i do have more emails where i am asking the googlr rep if what the freedom support staff said was true

"Thank you for contacting Freedom! support.

If you advertise your video through adwords you forfeit any money you may have made as they are not displaying other add's on your video since your video is the add."
they are refusing to pay me and are just saying the same thing over and over now.

and here was googles response to that.google email 3.jpg

my reply to google
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and googles reply to me

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i have shown all this to the support staff and have had no reply back in over 2 months from them. they are in the wrong here there is no way around that![DOUBLEPOST=1451690701][/DOUBLEPOST]
So I just took a look at your channel to see these videos, and I feel like I've got to say something about it. Your most viewed video has 28K views, but only 10 ratings. That is a telltale sign of viewbotting/buying views, and it's actually illegal to do that on monetised videos...

this was exactly what the freedom support staff done. i didnt and never would do that type of thing. it was all done through google ad words. and it was all legit.
 
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Thereepershadow

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Well hard to say but if Youtube pays Freedom and Freedom pays you, you can have 28K vieuws but if they are not monetized vieuws due to not showing adds, or people using addblock then you don't earn revenue.


yeah i understand this but point im making and what the google ad-words rep was making is that the videos themselves were ads so how can it not make any money when they both had 109718 impressions (most of these are non-monetized) and 29551 (actual monetized views) with google ad-words if its called a view on a video ad it is counted as a monetized view as the video is the ad.

what people aren't understanding is these two videos were being shown as the actual ad that plays before peoples videos around YouTube.
 
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TwilightPrinze

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yeah i understand this but point im making and what the google ad-words rep was making is that the videos themselves were ads so how can it not make any money when they both had 109718 impressions (most of these are non-monetized) and 29551 (actual monetized views) with google ad-words if its called a view on a video ad it is counted as a monetized view as the video is the ad.

what people aren't understanding is these two videos were being shown as the actual ad that plays before peoples videos around YouTube.
The problem here is that you make revenue from the Ads showing on your video's. The video itself doesn't matter it is about the advertisement during the video that counts. If that advertisement isn't shown you don't earn revenue
 
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Thereepershadow

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The problem here is that you make revenue from the Ads showing on your video's. The video itself doesn't matter it is about the advertisement during the video that counts. If that advertisement isn't shown you don't earn revenue


yes and like I've said a few times now the videos in question were the ads themselves, you don't get ads playing on other ads so that doesn't apply if you used google ad-words. when you use google ad-words you are buying the the advertisement space that runs before peoples videos on YouTube this turns your video into the ad itself so like i say you don't get ads running on top of other ads.

why would you pay to use this if you are not going to make money from it. google themselves have double checked that everything was above board here.

and another point, correct me if im wrong here but a monetized view is a view that has shown an ad, yes?

and in google ad-words a view is counted as a monetised view and impressions are the overall views you got.
 
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