What is the point of Sub4Sub?

TheAnimeKid

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I don't really see the point? When I see people asking sub for sub it seems pointless because having subs without people who actually want to see your content doesn't make sense. Does actually having more subs do anything?
 

Nolan Westmore

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For us who want to grow legitimately, there is no point to it. But in the grand scheme of YouTube, it helps us understand the crucial element of who is going to survive the YouTube rat race and who is not.

Consider, does the big YouTube need to reach out to his potential subscribers to get said potential subscribers? No, he does not. The big guy has subscribers flood to him on a daily basis because he is worthy of being the big channel.
When a small YouTuber gets desperate enough to resort to (what I call) third-party methods of "growth", that's when we can tell that said person is not in it for the hobby, or the fans, or the work associated with it, but rather just the money that comes from the views.

That's the same reason why I shudder at channels who ask "how do I make my channel grow?", the answer is: It won't using any method, just do what you do and it will happen naturally.

When you try too hard to stand up, you'll end up falling off the ladder.
 

TheAnimeKid

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There is no point in S4S. The only thing it does is grow the number but in the end it will harm your channel. If your subs grow at a rapid pace but you recieve only 10 vieuws on a video that doesn't do your channel any good.
That's what I thought, so why do so many people try it?[DOUBLEPOST=1450914470][/DOUBLEPOST]
master the youtube algorithim once you have established quality and consistency.
I'm just starting so I don't have much to go on right now :p. Was just asking why people did it since it seems like it doesn't help them in the end.
 

TwilightPrinze

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That's what I thought, so why do so many people try it?[DOUBLEPOST=1450914470][/DOUBLEPOST]
I'm just starting so I don't have much to go on right now :p. Was just asking why people did it since it seems like it doesn't help them in the end.
Because many people care about having a high sub amount instead of having a channel that repredents quality. Over time they will notice the damage caused by S4S but by then it is too late to adjust it.
 

TheAnimeKid

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Because many people care about having a high sub amount instead of having a channel that repredents quality. Over time they will notice the damage caused by S4S but by then it is too late to adjust it.
makes sense. I just see it all the time and i'm like I don't get the point lol. Thanks for replying
 

TwilightPrinze

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makes sense. I just see it all the time and i'm like I don't get the point lol. Thanks for replying
No problem and same for me. Alot of people try it and everything i can't do more then just facepalm and think: there goes another one taking the journey to ruin their channel (facepalm)
 
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Nothing. Sub 4 sub is totally useless. It's just to give users a higher sub count, but those people who sub to them don't actually watch their videos. Does nothing for someone's growth.
 

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I dunno really. I can see maybe a little point depending the average user. I watch a random video and if I really like it i'll watch other stuff from that creator. If I get bored with that content or wanna watch something a little different maybe i'll check out videos the first creator is subscribed to or whatever is in the related channels area. usually those are something they are subscribed to. Altho I guess youtube wouldnt put comeone on that list if the user didnt watche them frequently. would they.
 

Kratos Aurion

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I don't really see the point? When I see people asking sub for sub it seems pointless because having subs without people who actually want to see your content doesn't make sense. Does actually having more subs do anything?

Basically there is none. The people asking for them don't know any better.
 
I don't really see the point? When I see people asking sub for sub it seems pointless because having subs without people who actually want to see your content doesn't make sense. Does actually having more subs do anything?
Theres no point in sub4sub as it generates viewers that 'normally' will never watch your vids so basically act like bots. The only benefit is pushing your videos up in seo as you have more subs but not by much so its just not worth it
 

TheAnimeKid

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As well as being useless sub4sub isn't allowed in Freedom, so if you see anyone asking in the forums for sub4sub please report them.
I have yet to see it on Freedom, but I saw it on another forums community where they had a section for it and it confused me because I thought it was frowned upon in general lol.
 

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sub 4 sub gives you fake subscribers that will leave you on the drop of a dime and most of the time dont even watch your content. People like this are annoying and you should just ignore.